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  • #138

    pherculano
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    <p>How to create an AAT competition with FS?</p>
    <p>ex:</p>
    <p>Start – 5 km<br />
    Sector 1 – 5 km<br />
    Sector 2 – 17 km<br />
    Sector 3 – 10 km<br />
    ESS – 1 km<br />
    Goal – 0,4 km</p>
    <p>Time – 2 hours</p>
    <p>Does the score takes in count total distance and speed as suposed in an AAT competiton?</p>
    <p>PH
    </p>

    #509

    Oyvind Ellefsen
    Participant

    Hi,

    FS does not have a module for scoring AAT tasks (yet).

    Do you see a big need for scoring AAT in Hang/Paragliding comps?

    – Oyvind

    #511

    pherculano
    Participant

    Hi,

    well is another FAI possible task, to use in FAI competitions, so should be possible to score it right?

    PH

    #512

    Oyvind Ellefsen
    Participant

    I’ve not seen AAT used in a CIVL Cat 2 comp, it’s popular in Sailplane comps. But it might be something to look into. I suggest you make a ticket with a feature request, describing how you would like to see the format implemented and with links to rules/descriptions if possible.

    #513

    pherculano
    Participant

    Well, of course it has not been used in CIVL Cat 2.. there is no official way to score it.

    I don’t want to create any special format… just adapt (speed and distance)from what exist in ANNEX A from Seccion 3 – Gliding (8.3 and others) to Hang gliding and Paragliding.

    Also good idea to see this links: http://www.xcontest.org/xrace/about-aat/ http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21610
    http://www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=210860
    Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010- XRace 2010 – 12-18.7.2010 – Tolmin, Slovenia (confirmed FAI2 event ? ) – they used AAT-Speed Race and Speedrun http://www.xcontest.org/xrace/tasks/:20100712

    PH

    #514

    Oyvind Ellefsen
    Participant

    There are as far as I know no strict requirement to use GAP in a CIVL Cat 2 comp, but without compatible scores it might be difficult to get the WPRS points :-)

    Thanks for the links and info, as you can see elsewhere in the forum we are looking for developers to pick up on the development of FS, implementing new scoring forumulas are on the list of things that needs to be done.

    – Oyvind

    #515

    pherculano
    Participant

    Thank you for your answers but i’m not a programer… i don’t know how to help development of FS.

    I know that what i need now from FS is TOTAL DISTANCE / OLC (5 points) that a pilot have fly from SS until ES… not the task distance… any idea how to have this?

    PH

    #516

    pherculano
    Participant

    I’m thinking use AAT tasks with OLC distance. Only Take off and Goal sectors, for time.

    For that, and looking in FAI Annex A of SC S3 (part 6, 8.3 and 8.4) i’ve adapted the formulas for paragliding and come like this:

    PARAGLIDING (proposal) ==> 1000 pts = Dist > 30km and Time > 1 hour —- Tmin = 30 min and Dmin = 5 Km

    DAY PARAMETERS: Pm = MIN( 1000 ; (34 x Highest Distance) – 20 ; (1200 x Elapse Time of the fastest) – 200 )
    F = MIN ( 1 ; 1.25 x nº pilots achieve minimum dist. / nº pilots launched )
    Pvm = (2/3) x (nº finishers exceeding 2/3 best speed / nº pilots launched) x Pm
    Pdm = Pm – Pvm

    Competitor’s Score:
    Finisher: Pv = Pvm x (Vh – (2/3) x Highest finishers speed ) / ((1/3) x Highest finishers speed)
    Pv = 0 pts — IF (Finishers speed < (2/3) x Highest finishers speed)
    Pv = 0 pts — IF (Finishers time < Miminum task time (Tmin))
    Dist. / Speed—-Pd = Pdm
    OLC—————Pd = Pdm x (Pilot distance / Highest Distance)
    Pd = 0 pts — IF (Finishers distance < Minimum distance (Dmin)

    Non-finisher: Pv = 0
    Pd = Pdm x (Pilot distance / Highest Distance)
    Pd = 0 pts — IF (Finishers distance < Minimum distance (Dmin))

    Total: S = F x (Pv + Pd)

    Note:
    IF (Pilot time < Task time) —- Pilot time = Task time

    IF (MIN (Finisher distance) < Pilot non-Finisher Distance —- Pilot non-Finisher distance = MIN (Finisher distance)

    #556

    rafalopez
    Participant

    may be necessary, a module of punctuation for AAT tasks

    #1378

    kociecka
    Participant

    Has there been any further development on AAT in FS? This kind of task is being used more often these days. For example the Czechs had one AAT task during this year’s national championship – they scored the comp with FS, I don’t know how they handled the AAT (can’t find this task’s results).
    We use AATs quite often in our (Polish) national league weekend competitions. We use SeeYou for scoring, but it’s not very comfortable.
    Is there any chance that this type of task will be included in FS?

    karol

    #1379

    dzstefan
    Participant

    Hello
    I did the results of the Czech Open Championship but one guy (i dont know how his name is) from the Czech Republic has made AAT formula that works in FS. If someone needs a formula for AAT let me write an email stefan@sonet.com.mk

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    #2744

    Fred Wilson
    Participant

    > I’ve not seen AAT used in a CIVL Cat 2 comp, it’s popular in Sailplane comps.
    > But it might be something to look into. I suggest you make a ticket with a feature request,
    > describing how you would like to see the format implemented and with links to rules/descriptions if possible.

    Newbee here. No idea how to do this.

    Disussions are at “AAT (Assigned Area Tasks) – the future for our Comp scene?”
    See: http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21610
    and See: http://www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=34925

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