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the only command line parameter FS accepts right now is a path to the directoy where it will run.
I don’t think you can reference by column number, as far as I know, it only works by column name. Have you tried with the names you used for the additional columns?
I found the bug. This has probably not worked for many years now. Thanks for finding this! It’s fixed in FS 2015 R1, which we released yesterday:
Right now the distance is calculated “point to point”, no OLC style optimization over calculated turn points is done.
No, unfortunately there is not. The FSDB XML file grew organically over the years. The parser in FS works at a very low level (extract string attributes by name and convert them to the right type). This is not a situation we like, but it’s what we have right now.
Our thoughts are going into the same direction: A re-write with some clean layering that allows for different UIs or even automation calls to the business logic. Unfortunately, the number of people actively developing for FS is very limited (3 over the last year), and they are all very busy working on other stuff right now.
Sorry for the late response. I seem to not get a notification any more when a new topic is started here.
In general, day quality override should work exactly as you want it. But there may be a bug somewhere. I’ll look into it.
JoergFebruary 6, 2015 at 3:07 pm in reply to: Question for fs be used in Colombia Championships, #3498
“Was the new version FS 2014 R1.3 used for this Championships?” – yes, originally, and then once we fixed, an interim version (R1.4). We just officially released R1.5, with a couple more bug fixes.
“If so, I can’t find how to(where) set semi circle.” No need to set it: For PG comps, if you chose a goal line, the line is implicitly extend to the semi circle behind the goal line, and anybody entering that semi circle is considered in goal. This is built into the GAP 2014 formula.
“Is the bonus_gr (=4) for Stopped task bonus glide ratio ?” Yes
“They don’t use final_glide_decelerator. ” Correct, the use of final glide decelerators has been suspended after the European Championships.
” I see Altitude bonus/penalty fator just one number.
If it is 5, means 0.5s/m?” 5 means 5 s/m
I can’t find this option in the FS.
just option goal_line OK ?” As mentioned above, by picking a goal line (“goal_line” in the FSDB), you implicitly use the semi circle if you use GAP2014 and have set the competition to be a paragliding competition.
Hi Andi, sorry for the late response.
There are no rules for this, so you are free to decide. You already mention most of the pros and cons of either approach. An inexperienced score keeper may tend to keep things easier by only doing one competition, but somebody who’s done this a few times should have no problem handling two or three competition files in parallel.
Here in Switzerland, we just decided to score Sports Class and Female rankings at the Swiss Paragliding Open as separate competitions, starting next year. This way the best female or sports class pilot also has a chance to score with a big margin ahead of his direct competitors. There will still be an overall ranking which covers all pilots. So the score keeper will have to copy the track files into two competitions.
In a future of FS, we may do the work for you, so you only decide in the beginning how the scoring goes. But this will be a bit of work, not sure yet when we’ll get to that.
All the best
Sorry for the late response, your message was not forwarded to me for some reason.
With FS 2014, we introduce a system that is called FTV. The idea is that for each competitor, the worst results are crossed out and do not count towards the overall ranking. This way the “luck factor” is reduced, and people can fly more offensively, which makes for more attractive competitions.
This is mainly for high level competitions. If you don’t want to use FTV, you can set the FTV factor in the competition setup screen to 0% – this means that no tasks or portions of tasks will be dropped from the overall scores.
For the math behind FTV, see the last chapter of http://www.fai.org/downloads/civl/SC7_GAP
You are correct, this factor has somehow disappeared when we created the legacy scoring formula pack. I’m really sorry about that. Unfortunately, I don’t have the time to fix it right now. But in general, I recommend using the newest GAP implementation anyway, and the 2013 edition has the improved “jump the gun” handling as used in current world and continental championships.
This is correct. The PWC formula does not include this option, see
Sorry for taking so long to respond.
What you’re seeing is because the parameter “use_1000_points_for_max_day_quality” is set to 1 – this has the effect that even on a day where nobody reached goal, if the day quality is 100%, the winner can still get 1000 points.
I notice now that this is a contradiction between what I wrote in the PWC rules a while ago, and what I actually implemented in the FS implementation of that formula. I will have to figure out how the PWCA (Ulric Jessop’s scoring program, that is) actually handles this case, and adopt the implementation if necessary.
Right now, if you really want to only give 918 points for a winner of a long task where nobody reached goal, you have to set that parameter to “0” in the FSDB file. Watch out, it appears multiple times, once at the top (the competition template) and once for each task.
Sorry, I missed this (still don’t get alerts when somebody posts here, unfortunately, and I forget to check). Fortunately, Aaron asked the same question on paraglidingforum, and I answered it there:December 11, 2013 at 4:45 pm in reply to: FS version 1.3.4 & FS 2013 can’t use open distance in simplified Chinese system #3450
Could you please zip up the database and all the tracklog files and send them to fs [at] yourstruly [dot] ch? I’ll have a look later this week.